【推文】James Lindsay - Woke people believe they have "woke up" to how society really is...
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If you've ever been attacked by the Woke, you'll be familiar with a certain characteristic trait of theirs I'd like to explain. They cannot be wrong. If you disagree, it's only because you don't get it yet or because you willfully refuse to.
Woke people believe they have "woke up" to how society really is, and it's only a matter of time for others. Everyone who agrees with them "gets it" and has "woke up." Everyone else has some kind of false consciousness and will either wake up eventually or will willingly refuse to for some selfish reason.
That is, you cannot disagree. You can either not know yet or refuse to accept the truth for bad reasons.
如果你曾經受到「覺醒者」的攻擊，你一定熟悉他們的一種特徵。 他們無法出錯。 如果你不同意，那只是因為你還沒有理解，或者因為你故意拒絕接受。
「覺醒者」認為他們已經「覺醒」，意識到社會的真實面貌，而且其他人遲早也會如此。 那些同意他們的人「理解」一切，並且已經「覺醒」。 其餘的人都存在某種形式的虛假意識，要麼最終會覺醒，要麼會因為某些自私的原因而故意拒絕接受。
也就是說，你不能不同意。 你要麼還沒有了解，要麼因為不好的原因而拒絕接受真相。
This belief structure has a lot of downstream effects. One is that they act with a kind of brazen certainty and, in fact, paranoia and malice regarding what they know and believe others don't. They're "enlightened," you see.
Their "enlightened" status makes them Elect as well. They don't just have the better explanation; they alone have the only real explanation. Therefore, only they have a right to speak, lead, or rule. Anything else would maintain the false consciousness about the true state of society they "woke up" to.
They therefore not only bully people who don't agree, they write strange fan-fictions about their lives. In their Woke view, people who haven't "woke up" yet will encounter undeniable circumstances that will "wake them up" (or "baptize") them (by fire) soon enough. Something bad enough will happen that they'll finally "see the light (darkness)" and "wake up" too, unless they're too selfish or indoctrinated (Boomer-brained) to admit "the truth."
這種信念體系會產生許多後果。 其中之一是，他們以一種大膽的確定性行事，並且實際上對他們所知道以及他們認為其他人不知道的事情感到偏執和惡意。 他們是「已被啟蒙」的，你明白。
他們的「已被啟蒙」地位也使他們成為被選中的人。 他們不僅擁有更好的解釋，而且只有他們才擁有唯一真正的解釋。 因此，只有他們才有權發言、領導或統治。 任何其他做法都會維持他們「覺醒」後所看到的社會真實狀態的虛假意識。
因此，他們不僅欺負那些不同意的人，還會撰寫關於他們生活的奇怪同人小說。 在他們的「覺醒」觀點中，那些尚未「覺醒」的人將遇到無法否認的情況，這些情況很快就會「喚醒」（或「洗禮」）他們（通過火焰）。 一件足夠糟糕的事情會發生，他們最終會「看到光明（黑暗）」並「也覺醒」。 除非他們太自私或已被灌輸過多（像嬰兒一樣），以至於無法承認「真相」。
These silly little fan-fictions are disorienting but are a predictable consequence of having a Woke mentality, which requires the world to satisfy the Woke view of the world. Woke is, in many respects, having adopted a particular and critical fantasy mythology about the world, and the people who believe in it have also invested their sense of self in that fantasy being true (because then they're "enlightened" and Elect).
Anyone who persists in not getting with the program, especially if they fail to interpret events according to the Woke theory at hand (say, that the Jews control everything), must be doing so out of severe stupidity or willful blindness and is therefore to be subject to abuse. The abuse is "criticism" and "struggle" meant to induce "self-criticism" and "self-reflection," then change, or awakening. These words are Maoist because these tactics and techniques are Maoist as are the beliefs behind these tactics and techniques.
This will always eventually spin out of control. Everything that isn't going the way of the Woke Elect will eventually be interpreted through the lens that it wouldn't be going wrong if more people really "got it." The people who claim to "get it" don't get it enough, and the people who don't "get it" yet are an existential threat. The results are predictable, destructive, and inevitable, though their specific form is contingent on how much power the Woke Elect cult has taken to itself.
這些可笑的小同人小說令人困惑，但它們是擁有「覺醒」思維方式的預期後果。 這種思維方式要求世界符合「覺醒者」的世界觀。 在許多方面，「覺醒」是指接受了一種特別且批判性的關於世界的虛構神話，而那些相信它的人也將自己的自我認同感投入到這個虛構故事是真的（因為這樣他們就是「已被啟蒙」和被選中的人）。
任何堅持不理解的人，尤其是如果他們未能根據當前的「覺醒」理論來解釋事件（例如，認為猶太人控制一切），都一定是出於嚴重的愚蠢或故意無視，因此應該受到虐待。 這種虐待是「批評」和「鬥爭」，旨在引發「自我批評」和「自我反省」，然後改變或覺醒。 這些詞語帶有馬克思主義色彩，因為這些策略和技術以及這些策略和技術背後的信念都帶有馬克思主義色彩。
這最終總是會失控。 所有與「覺醒者」被選中的人不同的事物，最終都會通過一個鏡頭來解釋：如果更多的人真正「理解」，事情就不會出錯。 聲稱「理解」的人沒有充分理解，而那些尚未「理解」的人是對存在的威脅。 結果是可預測的、具有破壞性的和不可避免的，儘管它們具體的形式取決於「覺醒者」被選中的邪教所掌握的權力大小。
The beliefs described above can be summarized with a fancy term: Sociognosticism, which is the mother of totalitarianism. Woke is being sociognostic.
"Sociognosticism" is a compound word with two parts: socio- and -gnostic. The "socio-" part is the same prefix as in sociology, the "logic" (-logy, from logos) of social circumstances, dynamics, and phenomena. The "-gnostic" part refers to the gnostic worldview, which is quite specific in meaning. "Sociognosticism" therefore refers to being gnostic about the operation of society through sociological means.
上面描述的信念可以用一個華麗的術語概括：社會靈知派（Sociognosticism），這是極權主義之母。「覺醒」就是一種社會靈知論。
「社會靈知派」是一個複合詞，由兩個部分組成：「socio-」和「-gnostic」。 「socio-」部分與社會學中的前綴相同，是關於社會環境、動態和現象的「邏輯」（來自 logos 的 -logy）。 「靈知派」部分指的是靈知派的世界觀，其含義非常具體。「社會靈知派」因此是指通過社會學手段來了解社會運作。
Gnosticism refers to a way of thought in addition to being a label for a variety of esoteric cults in early Christianity (Sethian, Manichean, etc.). They are "gnostic" (Greek: gnosis, meaning knowledge) in that they believe they have a specific kind of hidden or secret or prohibited knowledge about the true nature of the self, reality, and the nature of the self in reality. Others have not "woke up" to this secret or prohibited knowledge. They don't "get it."
The specific type of knowledge gnostics claim is saving knowledge. They have specific beliefs about who we really are and the world into which we have been thrown that, once accepted, chart a path out of the circumstances in which we have been trapped.
Gnostics regard existence as a prison we've been thrown into. Being itself is being imprisoned. Their prohibited gnosis as secret knowledge (a) that we're in this prison and (b) that we might be able to escape this prison by knowing the "true" nature of self, reality, and the relationship of self to reality.
靈知派不僅是一種思維方式，也是早期基督教中各種神秘教派（例如塞特派、馬尼派等）的標籤。 他們是「靈知」（希臘語：gnosis，意為知識），因為他們相信自己擁有關於自我、現實以及自我與現實之間關係的特定種類的隱藏、秘密或禁止的知識。 其他人尚未「覺醒」到這種秘密或禁止的知識。 他們「不理解」。
靈知派學家聲稱擁有的特定知識是拯救性的知識。 他們對我們真正是什麼以及我們被拋入的世界有特定的信念，一旦接受這些信念，就能指明一條擺脫我們所處困境的道路。
靈知派學家認為存在是一個監獄，我們被扔了進去。 存在本身就是一種囚禁。 他們禁止的靈知派知識是（a）我們身處這個監獄，以及（b）通過了解自我的「真實」本性、現實以及自我與現實之間的關係，我們或許能夠逃離這個監獄。
In general, the early Christian Gnostics would have believed that the character most people believe is God is actually a demon who has imprisoned us in the world as mortal beings. There's a true God "beyond" the apparent God (Yahweh), and we are actually not material beings at all, but spiritual. We are, in fact, already gods or like gods ourselves, or, in fact, God Himself in microcosm. The demon who constructed the world doesn't want us to know this, though, and has arranged everything (including Scripture) to hide it from us. It is possible for us to find out the secret, however, and escape his prison, maybe, probably, hopefully.
The name for that demon posing as God the Creator is the Demiurge (Greek: demiurgos, artisan, builder). The Demiurge has arranged reality as a jail to us to maintain his own superiority. The hope of Gnosticism is to realize our true spiritual nature and outfox the Demiurge and escape, back into union with "the true God."
The belief in Gnosticism is that the Demiurge is an Alien being who has alienated us from our true nature and true inheritance. Alienation is at the center of the entire gnostic belief structure.
總體而言，早期的基督教靈知派學家可能會認為，大多數人相信的神祇實際上是一個惡魔，他將我們囚禁在這個世界中，成為凡人。 存在一個「超越」表象神（耶和華）的真正神，而我們實際上並非物質存在，而是精神存在。 實際上，我們已經是神或類似神的存在，或者說，我們本身就是微觀的神。 製造這個世界的惡魔不希望我們知道這些，並且安排了一切（包括經文），以將其隱藏起來。 然而，我們可以發現這個秘密，並可能、或許、希望能夠逃離他的監獄。
那個假冒創造神祇的惡魔的名字是德米吾斯（Demiurge）（希臘語：demiurgos，工匠、建造者）。 德米吾斯安排了現實，將其變成一個監獄，以維持他自己的優越地位。 靈知派的希望是認識到我們真正的精神本性，智取德米吾斯並逃脫，回到與「真正神」的合一之中。
靈知派的信念是，德米吾斯是一個外星生物，它使我們與我們的真實本性和真實遺產隔絕。 疏離/異化（Alienation）是整個靈知派主義信仰結構的核心。
Sociognosticism (or Sociological Gnosticism; or Social Gnosticism) does not characterize the gnostic story in terms of spiritual forces or beings. In place of the spiritual, it puts the social (sociological).
It therefore believes that we are social beings who aren't allowed to be who we really are because we misunderstand the world we're in. We don't understand our true nature as people, the state of society as it really is, or our intrinsic relationship as people to our society. It's "Woke" because we can "wake up" to this structure, once we see it.
The general structure is that some powerful center in society has constructed society and its systems of power and domination to validate itself and exclude all challengers, usually through social marginalization, repression, and oppression. That is, the "dominant groups" represent a Social Demiurge who alienates us from our "true being."
社會靈知派並沒有用精神力量或存在來描述（古代）靈知派故事。 它取代了精神層面，而是採用了社會層面（社會學）。
因此，它認為我們是社會性生物，因為我們誤解了所處的世界，所以不能成為真正的自己。 我們不理解我們作為人的真實本性、社會的真實狀態，以及我們與社會之間的內在關係。 這是「覺醒」的，因為一旦我們看到這種結構，我們就可以「覺醒」。
總體結構是，社會中的某個強大中心構建了社會及其權力體系和支配體系，以驗證自身並排除所有挑戰者，通常通過社會邊緣化、壓迫和剝削。 也就是說，「統治群體」代表一個社會德米吾斯，它使我們與我們的「真實存在」隔絕。
The Social Demiurge (dominant groups) erects a broad social mythology (called an "ideology") that justifies its (their) power while making its arbitrary and selfish nature invisible to most. People are socialized to accept it, not to see beyond it. They are led into a false consciousness to worship the society created and maintained by the Social Demiurge instead of the true society as it could/should be.
Marx said that "supersession [of the self] [is] the retraction of alienation into the self," and most of his theory was about alienation by the Social Demiurge he identified in the ruling class, which is the bourgeoisie in 19th century industrial capitalism (and since). Becoming "social" (or socialist, or social man, or socialist man) is a matter of "waking up" to this "reality" by becoming class conscious (supersession of self by absorbing class alienation and letting it define you as a sociospiritual-gnostic being).
社會德米吾斯（統治群體）建立了一個廣泛的社會神話（稱為「意識形態」），以正當化其（他們的）權力，同時使其隨意的和自私的本性對大多數人來說都是不可見的。 人們被教導接受它，而不是看穿它。 他們被引導進入一種虛假的意識，去崇拜由社會德米吾斯創造和維持的社會，而不是真實的社會應該是什麼樣的。
馬克思說，「（自我的）超越（Supersession）是一種將異化（alienation）收歸於自我（self）」，而他大部分理論都是關於由他所認定的統治階級（即 19 世紀工業資本主義中的資產階級以及之後）造成的異化。 成為「社會性」的（或社會主義的、或社會人的、或社會主義人的），是通過變得具有階級意識（克服自我，吸收階級異化，並讓它定義你為一個社會精神-靈知派的存在），來「覺醒」到這種「現實」。
It is the same with all Woke, including Fascism and Woke Right. Society is ruled by powerful groups (a Social Demiurge) who hide the real truth from us all, and only by "waking up" to their lies can we overcome their domination. In the meantime, we're marginalized, repressed, and oppressed, not just literally but by being held under the spell of false consciousness from which we need to "wake up."
This is the Woke mythological structure that is behind every single Woke fan-fiction they write about how the world "really" works and who we "really" are as people, even though we're alienated from our "true nature." Every disagreement has to be understood in terms of this totalizing mythological story structure, hence the behavior I outlined from the beginning.
這也適用於所有「覺醒」主義，包括法西斯主義和「覺醒」右派。 社會是由強大群體（一個社會德米吾斯）統治的，他們向我們所有人隱藏了真正的真相，只有通過「覺醒」到他們的謊言，我們才能克服他們的支配。 在此期間，我們不僅在字面上受到邊緣化、壓迫和剝削，而且還被一種虛假的意識所控制，我們需要從這種虛假的意識中「覺醒」。
這就是「覺醒」的神秘結構，它隱藏在他們每一篇關於世界「真正」運作方式以及我們作為人的「真正」身份的文章背後，儘管我們與我們的「真實本性」隔絕。 每個分歧都必須根據這個總體化的神秘故事結構來理解，因此，我從一開始概述的行為就是這樣。
I understand that Sociognosticism is a big, fancy, complicated word, but it is the mysticism and occultism of politics since the late 1700s, if not earlier. It is a pernicious strain that the Founding Fathers of America were discerning enough to detect and wise enough to attempt to preclude from their formulations for the United States, though their wisdom was early enough to have left gaps that we must be vigilant to fill.
People mistake Sociognosticism for politics, economics, sociology, and philosophy all the time. In fact, we're in the mess we're in now because people can barely tell the difference and our tech has allowed the full mainstreaming of what used to be confined to very elite circles (for the most part). Sociognosticism is not politics, economics, sociology, or philosophy, though. It is dark occultism and mysticism preying on the alienated and desperate, poisoning their minds in order to continue justifying itself.
If you find yourself disagreeing with a Woke person, or merely attacked by them, you will see for yourself what this experience is like. They cannot be wrong, and you have sided with a demon for not agreeing with them. They will treat you as such. This behavior is highly indicative of Woke Sociognosticism, and, as you can see, it has a fairly simple explanation.
我理解社會靈知派是一個大而複雜的詞，但自 18 世紀末（如果不是更早），它一直是政治中的神秘主義（mysticism）和奧秘學（occultism）。 這是一種有害的思潮，美國的開國元勳足夠敏銳地察覺到它，並且足夠明智地試圖將其排除在他們為美國制定的憲法之外，儘管他們的智慧已經足夠先進，以至於留下了我們必須警惕填補的空白。
人們常常把社會靈知派誤認為政治、經濟學、社會學和哲學。 實際上，我們現在陷入的困境是因為人們幾乎無法區分這些概念，而且我們的技術使得原本（絕大部分）只存在於非常精英圈子中的思潮得以全面進入主流。社會靈知派並非政治、經濟學、社會學或哲學。 它是一種黑暗的奧秘學和神秘主義，利用被異化和絕望的人們，毒害他們的思想，以繼續證明自己的合理性。
如果您發現自己與一個「覺醒」人士意見不合，或者僅僅受到他們的攻擊，您會親身體驗到這種感覺。 他們不能錯，而您因為不同意他們而站在了魔鬼的一邊。 他們會這樣對待您。 這種行為是「覺醒」社會認識論的強烈指標，正如您所看到的，它有一個相當簡單的解釋。
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Related ideas:
-Kafka Trapping
-Presuppositionalist RhetoricBoth approaches use diversionary tactics and attempt to move the discussion away from empirical claims that can be supported or refuted with evidence.
Both approaches are practiced by people who have made an “a priori” dogmatic commitment—both to their claim and to their methodology of arguing their claim.
(They will not explain why using their methodology is valid, but instead they will accuse critics of their methodology as being morally deficient.)
Both approaches are “bad faith,” inasmuch as they pretend to be aiming at persuading another person’s mind with reasonable argumentation, but the “argumentation” is only a sequence of statements that logically beg the question, followed by moral chastisement.
Woke ideology and Van Tillian Christian argumentation are two different forms of Presuppositionalism.
The Woke Right (a.k.a. the Dissident Right) also frequently indulge in presuppositional argumentation.
相關概念：
卡夫卡陷阱
預設論證
這兩種方法都使用轉移話題的策略，並試圖將討論從可以用證據支持或反駁的事實性聲明上轉移開來。
這兩種方法都是由那些已經對他們的觀點以及他們爭辯觀點的方法做出了「先驗」的教條承諾的人所使用的。
（他們不會解釋為什麼使用他們的方法是有效的，而是會指責批評他們方法的人在道德上存在缺陷。）
這兩種方法都屬於「惡意」，因為它們假裝旨在通過合理的論證來說服另一個人，但所謂的「論證」只是一系列邏輯上先決的問題陳述，然後是對道德上的譴責。
「覺醒」意識形態和 Van Tillian 基督教論證是兩種不同的預設主義形式。
「覺醒」右派（又稱「異議者右派」）也經常使用預設論證。
Kafka Trap / 卡夫卡陷阱
A Kafka Trap is a manipulative tactic where an accusation is structured so that any denial is interpreted as confirmation of guilt. The name originates from Franz Kafka’s novel The Trial, where the protagonist, Josef K., is prosecuted for a crime he is never told, and his pleas of innocence only serve to incriminate him further.
In short, if you deny the charge, that denial itself is presented as the very evidence that the charge is true.
一個卡夫卡陷阱是一種操縱手段，其中指控是以一種結構，使得任何否認都會被解釋為對罪的確認。 這個名稱源自法蘭茲·卡夫卡的小說《審判》，其中主角約瑟夫·K. 因一項他從未被告知的罪行而被起訴，而他無辜的抗議只會讓他更加受到指控。
簡而言之，如果您否認指控，那麼這種否認本身就被呈現為證明該指控真實的證據。